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Apakah planet ini sebaiknya disebut "Jupiter" atau "Yupiter" ya? Saya coba melakukan pencarian di situs fiskanet@LIPI, dua-duanya digunakan, namun Jupiter lebih banyak digunakan - sekitar dua kali (sekitar 400 vs 200). Bagaimana menurut wikiwan/ti lainnya? Hayabusa future (bicara) 07:24, 25 Agustus 2006 (UTC)
gue jg lebih familiar dengan "Jupiter" -- Ciko bicara 07:59, 25 Agustus 2006 (UTC)
- Rasanya lebih oke "Jupiter". borgx(kirim pesan) 01:20, 26 Agustus 2006 (UTC)
- Bukankah banyak juga bahasa "warisan" Belanda itu juga banyak yang tetap ditulis 'J' dan dilafalkan 'J' seperti contohnya : Januari bukan 'Yanuari', Juni bukan 'Yuni', Juli bukan 'Yuli' dan Jas bukan 'Yas'. Jadi Jupiter bisa saja diturunkan menjadi Jupiter dan bukannya 'Yupiter' dan mengingat Jupiter jauh lebih populer dibandingkan Yupiter apa tidak lebih baik kita menggunakan Jupiter saja. Sebagai tambahan komunitas astronomi Indonesia lebih banyak menggunakan kata Jupiter sebagai contoh: di beberapa situs astronomi Indonesia [1], [2] tidak dijumpai kata Yupiter tetapi konsisten menggunakan Jupiter. Di mailinglist astronomi_indonesia@yahoogroups.com kata Jupiter disebut 287 kali sedangkan Yupiter hanya 19 kali, dan pada mailing list Jogja_astroclub@yahoogroups.com Jupiter disebut 63 kali sedang Yupiter nihil. Marfiadi Bicara 18:17, 7 Juli 2008 (UTC)
tolong pindahkan ke Jupiter. Marfiadi Bicara 09:42, 2 Desember 2008 (UTC)
- Entri yang ada di KBBI adalah Yupiter. Tapi memang untuk kata-kata dari suatu ranah pengetahuan tertentu, dalam hal ini astronomi, sebaiknya mengikuti kebiasaan atau istilah yang berlaku di lingkungan tersebut. Mungkin ada baiknya minta pendapat dari ahli bahasa atau ahli astronomi, spesifik mengenai mana yang benar: Jupiter atau Yupiter. Mereka mungkin belum pernah mempermasalahkannya :) •• ivanlanin ♫ 02:05, 27 Maret 2009 (UTC)
Mungkin perlu diperhatikan juga asal paling mula kata ini muncul. Dalam Bahasa Latin, bahasa Kekaisaran Romawi, di mana kata ini muncul pertama kali untuk menyebut bapaknya para dewa, ditulis sebagai Iuppiter. Saya lebih condong untuk menyebutnya sebagai Yupiter, turunan dari bahasa Latin dan bukan dari Bahasa Belanda atau Inggris. Memang peranan planet ini semakin penting mengingat dia menjadi planet tipikal raksasa gas yang digunakan sebagai pembanding untuk planet-planet luar surya. Massa planet-planet raksasa gas luar surya seringkali dinyatakan dalam MJ (massa Jupiter). Tetapi karena Yupiter sudah menjadi "milik umum" dan tidak lagi eksklusif "milik astronomi", maka sebaiknya kita mengikuti KBBI sebagai istilah yang sudah resmi menjadi istilah serapan. geboy (bicara) 07:43, 31 Maret 2009 (UTC)
Nampaknya kata-kata pungutan berawal 'j' dari bahasa Belanda yang bersifat umum dilafazkan sebagai 'j' dan bukan 'y'. Sebab sejatinya dalam bahasa Melayu, bunyi y tidak muncul pada posisi awal. Oleh sebab itu kata-kata pungutan, tidak hanya dari bahasa Belanda tetapi misalkan juga dari bahasa Sanskerta seperti jantera asli yantra dan jasa dari yasa. Contoh-contoh lain dari bahasa Belanda: "yurisdiksi", "yudikatif", "yuris", "yoker", "yodium", "yargon" dst. Meursault2004ngobrol 12:50, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- KBBI pun tidak konsisten di sini, ia menurunkan "Yudikatif" dan "Yodium" tapi tetap mempertahankan "Jargon". Marfiadi Bicara 03:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Tapi, mas, ini menyangkut nama diri, jadi contoh-contoh yang lebih tepat, terutama yang dari bahasa Latin, misalnya: Jesus->Yesus, Josef->Yusuf, Johannes->Yohanes, Jacob->Yakobus/Yakub, Jeremy->Yeremia, dll.
NB: idem dengan wic2020 01:44, 26 Agustus 2006 (UTC) di atas
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01:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC) | B·K·L·P |
- Itu kan khusus untuk nama-nama Alkitab, mungkin gereja ada panduan khusus untuk hal ini. Tapi tidak untuk yang umum, dan Jupiter/Yupiter saya rasa tidak ada panduan dari gerejanya. Walaupun dalam kenyataan sehari-hari banyak juga orang yang tetap menggunakan Jacob, Josef dan Johannes. Lagian saya rasa Jupiter/Yupiter tidak diturnkan dari bahasa Latin, melainkan bahasa Belanda. Marfiadi Bicara 03:25, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Nama planet Jupiter dengan dewa Jupiter mana yang lebih awal, tentu dewa Jupiter bukan? Planet itu menggunakan nama dewa Romawi tersebut, seperti halnya planet-planet lainnya di Bima Sakti. Nah saya rasa yang lebih masuk akal adalah mempertanyakan pengindonesiaan nama dewa itu, bukan nama planetnya. Lagipula kenapa harus ada satu yang lebih benar? kenapa tidak bisa dua-duanya saja?
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- Bahwa KBBI menggunakan istilah Yupiter pastilah ada proses. Bahwa istilah Jupiter lebih banyak dipakai oleh para komunitas astronomi juga bukan berarti itu adalah istilah yang tepat. Rekan-rekan di komunitas astronomi saya kira lebih mencari hal praktis saja. Seingat saya, waktu saya kecil, ada buku Pustaka Time Life dengan judul "Bintang dan Planet" dengan pemeriksa (atau penerjemah?) Bambang Hidayat, menyebutnya sebagai Yupiter (sayang saya tidak memiliki bukunya. Jika ada wikipediawan/wati yang masih memiliki mohon dapat diperiksa). Salam geboy (bicara) 06:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Balai Pustaka
[sunting sumber]Sepertinya WBI perlu juga mempunyai hubungan dengan Balai Pustaka yang menerbitkan KBBI agar ada kesamaan berkenaan nama-nama, misalnya, antara J dan Y, C dan S, K dan Q, dan lainnya. Kalau saya setuju Jupiter. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 03:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
KBBI atau Voting
[sunting sumber]Perlu konsultasi ke Balai Pustaka atau Voting ya? Serba sulit juga jadinya untuk menentukan sikap konsistensi berkenaan nama. Di lain pihak, Yamaha Motor Indonesia mengeluarkan merek Yamaha Jupiter, bukannya Yamaha Yupiter. Mikhailov Kusserow (bicara) 03:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
- setau saya Wikipedia menggunakan mekanisme voting, contohnya pembicaraan:Perancis, walaupun seingat saya yang benar menurut tata bahasa adalah Prancis (btw, kok keduanya di KBBI nggak ada yah.. jadi meragukan nih) tapi berdasarkan voting akhirnya digunakan Perancis. Marfiadi Bicara 01:00, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
KBBI, edisi kelima
[sunting sumber]Jupiter: [3].
Yupiter: entri tidak ditemukan. [4]. Burzuchius (bicara) 30 Maret 2019 20.27 (UTC) (id-0)
- Setuju FelixJL111 (bicara) 12 Juli 2019 14.55 (UTC)
- Setuju.--Vulphere 17 Juli 2019 06.05 (UTC)
Pranala mati
[sunting sumber]Selama beberapa bot otomatis berjalan, pranala luar berikut menjadi tidak tersedia. Periksa apakah pranala sebenarnya sedang tidak aktif dan perbaiki atau hapus dalam hal ini!
- http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/02mar_redjr.htm (archive)
- In Jupiter on 2020-03-25 11:04:15, 404
Halaman web telah disimpan oleh Internet Archive. Silakan mempertimbangkan untuk menghubungkan ke versi arsip yang sesuai: [5]. --Hidayatsrf (Hubungi) 25 Maret 2020 11.04 (UTC)
External links found that need fixing (Oktober 2023)
[sunting sumber]Hello fellow editors,
I have found one or more external links on Jupiter that are in need of attention. Please take a moment to review the links I found and correct them on the article if necessary. I found the following problems:
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- http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/education/teacherres-amalthea.html is considered to be dead, however has been found to be alive. Recommend removing the dead flag from the URL.
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- http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/galileo/ is considered to be dead, however has been found to be alive. Recommend removing the dead flag from the URL.
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